He tells Somewhat Legendary: "They wanted something different, that's all I can tell you. They wanted something with a little bit more of a growl, a grunt - the 90s thing. And they just pushed aside whatever clean and tenor I had. It just didn't fit. Whatever, what are you gonna do?

"Sometimes maybe I was a little too clean for everybody. I mean, look at the times where Anthrax didn't feel I was right for their band, which was shocking to me, because I thought we had a cool thing. And obviously, you can see we're carrying on now. So you get confused, what I used to do and how it wasn't right, at one time, for them."