He tells Artisan News: "I love the imagery, I just hate the f***ing music. I like them, they've been on many tours with us. I just - I can't. And I tried. I wanna like 'em, and I can't.

"I got their CD from Brian Slagel from Metal Blade. It was when Gary Holt first started playing with us, and I picked up Gary. And I'm, like, 'Brian said this is awesome, man.' So we put it on, going to practice. It wasn't awesome. It wasn't awesome for me.