On November 6, Rudd was charged with attempting to procure a murder by New Zealand police after he allegedly tried to have two men killed, possession of methamphetamine, possession of cannabis and threatening to kill.

Authorities dropped the charge of attempting to procure a murder the next day due to lack of evidence. "Phil created his own situation," Young tells USA Today. "It's a hard thing to say about the guy. He's a great drummer, and he's done a lot of stuff for us. But he seems to have let himself go. He's not the Phil we've known from the past."

Young speculates that drugs could be involved - "when you get into that land, it's very hard" - but adds, "I don't know the exact situation. ... I can only say, from our perspective, that the guy needs to sort himself out."