Ward says he had to distance himself from the band after the fallout, with one tactic being to totally dismiss the album that was created without him. Ward - who remains locked in a war of words with Osbourne - tells the Eddie Trunk Podcast (via Blabbermouth): "I wasn't interested in the f***ing album 13. I've heard 20 bars of it - that's all I've heard - and then I turned it off and said, 'That's a pile of sh*t,' and that's the truth.